Gender makes the difference you want it to… and we can dismiss it at that. Yet there are patterns of visibility in writing. How to account for those? Is it just market demand? Men like to read men and women like to read men?
4 years ago I did a spot check of gender represented in my CDs. 12% of my music was by female artists and 15% a mix of genders. People who commented found my numbers out of line with their library.
To do a head count of gender of 3 of my poetry shelves today, I get 103 male-written titles, 50 female-written titles and 9 mixed gender collections.
I suppose if females produce less, I could be disproportionally selecting female authors compared to what’s on the market. (That was my push for a while for music and poetry to correct my own gender bias.)
Admittedly, owning isn’t the same as being happy to read after the purchase fact. 35/103 (a third), 21/50 (just under half) and 5/9 (just over half) I look at and say I enjoyed. What to make of that? Enjoying is a different measure than learning from or being able to access and resonate.
It could be unrelated to anything gender. We ascribe meaning to random patterns and then act to make things real. It could be sampling effect.
Over at Huffington Post Amelia Gray writes,
Publishers Weekly Reviews Director Louisa Ermelino noted that the editors ignored gender and genre, and that “it disturbed us when we were done that our list was all male.”
Is Ermelino disturbed in the same way that she would be disturbed at a penny landing on heads ten times in a row?
Is she disturbed because, unlike a penny, the likelihood that a book written by a man will register a higher acclaim than a book by a woman is not a 50/50 chance?
Sometimes the skew is there but the Canada reads list of recommended literature is 2 females and 3 males, which isn’t remarkable and noticeable on account of gender. [hat tip: CanCult] This list is close to half female.
Gray also related what Kamy Wicoff pointed out, “Here’s another one for you: 65% of books sold in the U.S. are purchased by women; women wrote 0% of the Best Books of 2009. Really?”
Is this randomness? Randomness + something systemic?
I appreciate Gray in the article looking at what could be informing the numbers,
J.A. Tyler, of mud luscious/mlp reported that the last 100 general submissions broke down into 59 male and 41 female, but the chapbook submissions were 41 male and 14 female.
Adam Robinson’s Publishing Genius saw 80 male and 20 female submissions.
From Roxane Gay’s PANK, a journal some speculated would be more female-sub heavy, 65 submissions were from men and 35 were from women.
Are women publishing less overall or is that something particular to who submits and making the cut skews in different ratios?
What does that reflect from society’s shape or from individuals? Is it how females spend their time, or how gratification is?
What behavior underlies? Do more women write for friends and in circles where the material does not leave to go to print? Or are women disproportionally creating online journals, being earlier innovators to use the internet and its lower cost structure than paper-routes? Since women still, on average, are 20 cents behind per dollar in wage gap, and are more likely to be raising kids at home, access might be better positioned to go digital routes?
Or is it a matter of material not being produced at the same rate in gender aggregate?
Is it a matter of not material means, or material produced, but some cultural effect of gender construction? What could that be? Males are to chase down opportunities? We all have the same number of hours per day and make choices of how to apply the time. Are males networking more to promote one another whereas females, if networking, don’t on aggregate, have the mindset of promotion and marketing and CV?
Females or males can write in a voice of the other gender (gendered language habits if they exist, as well as life experience recounting) or to a different point in gender continuum than the author is in. For example, a female femme, writing machismo or visa versa. A neutral gendered male writing close to neutral gendered female. In the Guardian article, Sheenagh Pugh points out the case of Caroline Carver, a middle-aged white woman appropriating the voice of a black male fisherman in horse underwater so well that no one suspected it wasn’t a male. If a female writes a male point of view, is it still female writing? If a male writes from a female point of view, is he still consigned to “male writing”? Do the categories even make sense? We all are the tellers of stories, whatever stories we can tell, whatever ones we listen to.
The insecurity that seems at the base of males winning more contests, awards, jury panel positions, presidencies is the fear that males are intrinsically more capable. Or, if awards reward mediocrity by decision committee cancelling out the most polarizing items, females not winning could be a sign of being more divisively interesting?? If one is biologically the underdog, what to do to reconcile that potential reality with dignity?
The national myth (of America and Canada) is about rising above your station of poverty or loss. People with any disability or disadvantage can be fulfilled and play a role in society. What if females are capped? What if females were given equal wage and fulfillment of job and security of roof, parity in housework, birth control pills to stabilize any mood discrepancies, equal literacy and access to information, and still generation after next, with old girl clubs in place to leverage ladies up in parallel systems for literature, still failed to produce as much work, and as much value, and as much quality of creativity? What if it’s not a matter of difference of skills but absolute inferiority? That’s feeding my virulence of wanting parity and equity.
I grew up chanting girls are better than boys (tongue stuck out) but I’ve never been fundamentally convinced of it. Nor do I want to be.
I always aim to keep one foot in skepticism as a matter of course. I disprefer to be convinced of anything 100% because all the data is never in and all the filters are never off. I want to avoid the pitfalls of confirmation bias.
There are too many billions of people to parse, too many cultures, too many variable, flux over time, individual fluidity, subjectivity in measure. People we presume to be one gender, could be the other. (Billy Tipton comes to mind.)
I’m sold the story that females for millennia have been subjected to second class citizenship. It seems too tidy to be credible. There are too many individuals and changes involved for even systemic patterns to hold. Who tells that story and who chimes in and what impact does that have?
The idea of women in their own league, sporting events only open females leaves me uncertain. In a way it feels like a tiering of excellence. Normal, i.e. male, female, and then special Olympics. Schools where people are streamed by gender gives better academic results for males and females. So long as males and females do different things, hold different domains, what rises as relevant and resonant will vary.
Do women write female poetry? was a question raised at The Guardian on the heels of the Aldeburgh poetry festival and a discussion panel on “the female poem”. [via]
The discussion in comments included Degus saying,
We are never not experiencing our age, gender, etcetera. Are you saying that poetry comes from – or ought to come from – somewhere that has nothing to do with our actual, everyday, breathing experiences? That the origins of poetry lie, somehow, in some way, outside us? That to allow our age, gender, etc, to show in our poetry is to contaminate something that ought not have anything to do with such ordinary – even vulgar – things? […]
Is it the best use of poetry to use it to conceal this side of who and what we are [?…] why should we so wish to transcend ourselves? Is there something insufficient about ourselves when we are only that which we are, day in day out?
The notion of gender is said to not make any difference. Yet counting gender distribution anywhere (book store, awards list, members of parliament, number of managers, people who choose to teach, or any number of careers) show a pattern. It is an artifact. It’s changing, I’m told.
My first formative bias comes from a gender-split community where menfolk socialize in a different room from womenfolk, whether euchre nights, or church, or family gatherings. There is an unquestioning of men wearing the pants in the family that has only started to shift to the model of partnerships rather than female obedience. I am dating myself. As I talked about a couple years ago, each generation has its own notion of gender and embraces a wave of feminism from its own starting point and context.
In my workplaces in life have been 7:1 female to male bosses. Bias is hard to shape once formed. If a matriarchal culture arose around me, would I be able to refresh my eyes to see the alternate shape of data?
Does one slice of female discourse exclude males? Does one part of male discourse not overlap with female? Anything domestic a male can engage in. Anything that is verbally roughhousing a female can engage in. It depends on personality and family culture more than gender. Even if something is not intrinsically gendered, if functions as if it is is if labelled as such. What is ascribed to gender presentation or derivation still has an impact. What unconsciously is complicit with gendered domains is a social grease so we can move on to issues that matter that aren’t gender. Gender is an incidental conveyance, like “race” or size or hobby, more than a cargo.
Gender isn’t a binary but a continuum. Some people are not cisgendered, lining up with the current roles assigned to sex. Gender doesn’t apply to most things, even if there are marketing attempts to make everything from yogurt to shoelaces to vocabulary something intrinsically gender niched.
As Sheenagh Pugh said at her blog recently “I’m still less convinced by gender-based anthologies. I don’t feel I necessarily have anything in common with X and Y just because we share the same reproductive equipment; I don’t write with that.”
It’s a sentiment I frequently hear. What of expression can we attribute to piping and to the minority of times when we are shunted down a chute of one gender?
Women have ownership of birth and menses. Is there anything that males have exclusivity on? Either can child rear, pee standing up and have comparable orgasms even if structures vary a tad. There are no structural absolutes on who dominates or penetrates which gender. Females can vote and own property rather than be property in most places. Males and females can be property in some areas still. Males are likely to have more muscle strength and a higher starting point even if they haven’t exercised. Is any of that have a bearing on writing or reading appeal?
If we are writing about things that pertain to embracing femaleness, yoni and self-breast love and childbirth, is that the full reach of a woman writing? Would that not reduce female into being piping? What position does that put the rest of the person, male or female?
If writing outside that envelop, are we writing as women but not doing women’s writing, as when someone writes cowboy novels, the author doesn’t seek to be a cowboy story writer when putting on the vampire-fiction hat.
Is the male experience substantially different, with national and class culture held constant in Canada? Do males and females confer more respect to males still, or are females less likely to get respect or need to do more to earn it? Are defaults different?
Yet at the same time we have aggregate behavior, trends of habit. Or we have ghost blips in statistics. Intuitively and by number it seems more males, at least as figurehead, lead. And lead in economic gain and in literary gains. What account for it?
There’s Women of the Avant Garde, 2 and part 1. In it the host said females weren’t represented before that worldwide revolution of feminism in the 1960s.
The most salient part of the segments is the sadness that a sound piece was derived from a woman and her friends acting like crazy people to drive off men from attacking her, and that women systemically believe and believed it so and that a mechanism like that would need to be developed.
To develop it further into names and birdsong and performance art is interesting. More interesting is what it says about the construction of threat and deterrent and response. Many females do literary work. What about this marks it as feminist?
The podcasts were a route to a link to Tender Buttons by Gertrude Stein which I feel I could “get”.
GLAZED GLITTER.
Nickel, what is nickel, it is originally rid of a cover.
The change in that is that red weakens an hour. The change has come. There is no search. But there is, there is that hope and that interpretation and sometime, surely any is unwelcome, sometime there is breath and there will be a sinecure and charming very charming is that clean and cleansing. Certainly glittering is handsome and convincing.
It seems timeless. Hard to believe it is century old.
Sarojini Sahoo wrote an article on 4 leading feminist writers of India of the last century: Kuntal Kumari Sabat, Maitreyi Devi, Amrta Pritam, and Kamla Das.
I found Maitreyi Devi’s story particularly interesting. As a young woman she had a romance with someone who would go on to become a well-known Romanian author, Mircea Eliade. After they each moved on to other places and people, he wrote their story, but in Romanian. The word eventually got back to her. Feeling unfairly represented by it, she wrote her version of truth in a novel as a rebuttal. The English translation of his Romanian novel is entitled The Bengal Nights while the English translation of her Indian novel is entitled It Does Not Die.
I wonder what the overlap was in the narrative? What parts don’t relate to each other at all?
What would the alternate story be for the future practice of Her version of success and thriving? Is it happening already but the pieces haven’t be strung into a popular dominent myth of How Things Are?
Pearl,
you might find Amy King’s article interesting, at
http://amyking.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/the-weenie-roast-%e2%80%93-ingredients-not-how-long-but-what%e2%80%99s-in-it%e2%80%a6/
As for me, besides Cixous and Kristeva my researches into feminist literature have been pretty limited (and I’m not happy about it) But are males voices privileged in Canada: yes, where are female versions of Bok, bissett, Wah, and even Ondaatje etc? Token names and works won’t do. The boys get serious press, still, even in Canada: the land of milk and difference. I suspect the unholy alliance of awards, politics and academics has a lot to do with it. Competitiveness and arts one-ups·man·ship, too.
“Do males and females confer more respect to males still, or are females less likely to get respect or need to do more to earn it? Are defaults different?” Very good questions.
I hadn’t seen Amy’s. thanks. I’ll look at that this afternoon.
her link from there to an article on the numbers by Juliana Spahr and Stephanie Young is also worth a read. who and what gets selected for an argument of essentialism of gender?
http://humanities.uchicago.edu/orgs/review/CR_532_Spahr_Young.pdf
and John C. Goodman from FB status adds more weight to the heard from 3 other publishers sources that more men send things than women:
Why do more men than women submit poetry to magazines? I read that for most literary magazines the ratio is 70% men to 30% women. The ditch, stats confirm this. Of total submissions to the magazine 73% have been from men and 27% from women. Of the total number of poets published on the website, 67% have been male and 33% female.
at http://www.digitalemunction.com/2007/11/04/poetry-and-gender-following-numbers-trouble/ and the over 200 pages of archived comments on the discussion starting in 2007
http://saidwhatwesaid.com/gender.pdf
and then there’s this James Chartrand. As a male pen name she got more contracts for editing, less disagreement of edits and could get higher pay than when she marketed herself under her female pen name.
>“Masculinity” already impoverishes men enough without people — women and men — literally playing it up. Although I think it’s a marvelous indictment of the whole conceit that biological women are able to pull it off as effortlessly as biological men. But here’s the deal: masculinity, like femininity, is a total fucking joke.